On signal-to-noise ratio-assisted crosstalk channel estimation in downstream DSL systems

Mamoun Guenach*, Jerome Louveaux, Luc Vandendorpe, Phil Whiting, Jochen Maes, Michael Peeters

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Downstream (DS) crosstalk channels of digital subscriber line systems can be estimated based on the reported signal-to-noise ratio (SNR). In the case of an already active victim line (VL) impacted by the joining of a new disturber line (DL), sending perturbing signals on the VL and reporting the SNRs allow the estimation of the crosstalk channel from the DL to the VL. This paper generalizes that concept to include full startup, tracking and joining scenarios as well as the impact of different perturbation signal choices. Additionally, the sensitivity of the algorithm to different sources of imperfection is analyzed. Simulation results reveal that starting without precoding, and updating the precoder matrix based on the DS crosstalk channel estimates, the far-end crosstalk-free SNR can be reached in a limited number of iterations (e.g., 36 SNR measurements are needed for the four lines case). The SNR-assisted method is documented in an informative appendix of the draft G.vector recommendation as a backward compatible method for very high speed digital subscriber lines (VDSL2) and, hence, can be used for channel acquisition today.

Original languageEnglish
Article number5378619
Pages (from-to)2327-2338
Number of pages12
JournalIEEE Transactions on Signal Processing
Issue number4
Publication statusPublished - Apr 2010
Externally publishedYes


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